Luther Rice's Calvinism
When you talk about Luther Rice and Calvinism, you need to clarify whether you are referring to the man or the seminary that bears his name. Dr. James Flanagan, the President of the Luther Rice Seminary, recently wrote about Calvinism in his "President's Perspective" column in the Pioneer (Vol. 46, No. 1, Spring 2008).
He chose to address this topic, he says, because he is often asked by alumni "where Luther Rice stands on issues related to Calvinism." Well, where Luther Rice the school stands is decidedly different from where Luther Rice the man after whom it is named stood (and still stands!).
Luther Rice the man made this observation in a letter to a friend:
While Dr. Flanagan does not hold to Luther Rice's theology at this point, he does exude his spirit. I think his article is, in many ways, a model of how dialogue about this issue should take place. By that, I mean that his spirit is irenic while his convictions are clearly stated. Obviously, I disagree with some of his points and I would challenge his arguments in places. But the way he has written invites such dialogue. I don't get the impression that he would be offended by such an exchange. In fact, he writes,
That quote comes from the 2nd head of doctrine of the Canons of Dort. I believe that some of the angst that my non-Calvinist friends have about particular redemption would be lessened if they read the statements of Dort carefully at this point. I am not suggesting that they would all become convinced of particular redemption, but they might come to recognize that it is not a view to be lightly dismissed. In fact, I believe some would discover that they are far closer to Dortian Calvinism at this point than they ever imagined.
A second place where I would graciously challenge Dr. Flanagan's argument is in his treatment of the secret vs. revealed will of God. He rejects this approach while citing God's instructions to Abraham to kill Isaac as a passage that is "commonly cited as proof of these supposed dual volitions." He offers no alternative, however understanding, however. What does one do with this passage? Was it God's will for Abraham to kill Isaac, or was it not? To make the point even more starkly, "Was the death of Jesus God's will, or was it not?" I can argue that it both was and was not. It was because Christ was the lamb slain before the foundation of the world and, as He repeatedly told His disciples, this was the reason that He came. It was not because God has expressed His will in His law, which says, "Thou shalt not murder." This is a conundrum not only for Calvinists. The recognition that God has a revealed will as well as a secret or decreed will is the best solution that I have heard that maintains the integrity of the sacred text.
Dr. Flanagan ends his article with these gracious words:
He chose to address this topic, he says, because he is often asked by alumni "where Luther Rice stands on issues related to Calvinism." Well, where Luther Rice the school stands is decidedly different from where Luther Rice the man after whom it is named stood (and still stands!
Luther Rice the man made this observation in a letter to a friend:
How absurd it is, therefore, to contend against the doctrine of election, or decrees, or divine sovereignty.His biographer, James B. Taylor, contends that it is beyond doubt that Rice held to the doctrine of "divine decrees." However, consider what Luther Rice added immediately after the above extract:
Let us not, however, become bitter against those who view this matter in a different light, nor treat them in a supercilious manner; rather let us be gentle towards all men. For who has made us to differ from what we once were? Who has removed the scales from our eyes? Or who has disposed us to embrace the truth?He was a Calvinist who acted like one--or at least like how one should act. If those who claim to believe most strongly in God's grace do not act graciously then their conduct undermines their profession.
While Dr. Flanagan does not hold to Luther Rice's theology at this point, he does exude his spirit. I think his article is, in many ways, a model of how dialogue about this issue should take place. By that, I mean that his spirit is irenic while his convictions are clearly stated. Obviously, I disagree with some of his points and I would challenge his arguments in places. But the way he has written invites such dialogue. I don't get the impression that he would be offended by such an exchange. In fact, he writes,
Much of this conversation is an attempt to emphasize the common ground shared by Baptists and other evangelicals, but to say that we all march to the same drummer because we share a common belief in eternal security is inadequate. There are significant questions that need to be asked and substantive differences that need to be brought to the fore if we are to make headway[.]Dr. Flanagan makes it clear that he will not hire anyone who believes in particular redemption ("limited atonement"). He defends that position by stating:
We believe that Jesus' death is sufficient to save all mankind but is efficacious only for those who believe. We reject the notion that Jesus died just for the elect.I wonder how he would feel about someone who believed this: "The death of God's Son is the only and entirely complete sacrifice and satisfaction for sins; it is of infinite value and worth, more than sufficient to atone for the sins of the whole world."
That quote comes from the 2nd head of doctrine of the Canons of Dort. I believe that some of the angst that my non-Calvinist friends have about particular redemption would be lessened if they read the statements of Dort carefully at this point. I am not suggesting that they would all become convinced of particular redemption, but they might come to recognize that it is not a view to be lightly dismissed. In fact, I believe some would discover that they are far closer to Dortian Calvinism at this point than they ever imagined.
A second place where I would graciously challenge Dr. Flanagan's argument is in his treatment of the secret vs. revealed will of God. He rejects this approach while citing God's instructions to Abraham to kill Isaac as a passage that is "commonly cited as proof of these supposed dual volitions." He offers no alternative, however understanding, however. What does one do with this passage? Was it God's will for Abraham to kill Isaac, or was it not? To make the point even more starkly, "Was the death of Jesus God's will, or was it not?" I can argue that it both was and was not. It was because Christ was the lamb slain before the foundation of the world and, as He repeatedly told His disciples, this was the reason that He came. It was not because God has expressed His will in His law, which says, "Thou shalt not murder." This is a conundrum not only for Calvinists. The recognition that God has a revealed will as well as a secret or decreed will is the best solution that I have heard that maintains the integrity of the sacred text.
Dr. Flanagan ends his article with these gracious words:
Obviously, there are many issues related to this topic that we cannot get into in such a short article; hopefully this essay has given you an idea of where we stand. We do not think that those who differ with us on these doctrines are heretics. They are good and godly brothers and sisters. Many have achieved a level of scholarship that we can only admire, and their passion for the glory of God is evident. We rejoice in the good that they are doing for the cause of Christ. On these important issues, however, we believe they have greatly erred.It does not offend me in the least for a brother to point out that he thinks I am in error, especially when he has tried to point it out to me with sincerity absent any caricature. It is this spirit that will facilitate the kind of discussions that brothers and sisters in the SBC need to be having.

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Thank you for this excellent post!
I was reminded of some things Spurgeon said:
"Now he that died upon the cross was God's only begotten Son. Can you conceive a limit to the merit of such a Savior's death? I know there are some who think it necessary to their system of theology to limit the merit of the blood of Jesus: if my system of theology needed such a limitation, I would cast it to the winds. I cannot, dare not, allow the thought to find a lodging in my mind; it seems so near akin to blasphemy. In Christ's finished work I see an ocean of merit; my plummet finds no bottom, my eye discovers no shore. There must be sufficient efficacy in the blood of Christ, if God had so willed it, to have saved not only all this world, but ten thousand worlds, had they transgressed the Maker's law. Once admit infinity into the matter, and limit is out of the question. Having a divine person for an offering, it is not consistent to conceive of limited value; bound and measure are terms inapplicable to the divine sacrifice. The intent of the divine purpose fixes the application of the infinite offering, but does not change it into a finite work. In the atonement of Christ Jesus there is 'bread enough and to spare;' even as Paul wrote to Timothy, 'He is the Savior of all men, specially of those that believe.'"
http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/1000.htm
But he also was able to write:
"Some persons love the doctrine of universal atonement because they say, "It is so beautiful. It is a lovely idea that Christ should have died for all men; it commends itself," they say, "to the instincts of humanity; there is something in it full of joy and beauty." I admit there is, but beauty may be often associated with falsehood. There is much which I might admire in the theory of universal redemption, but I will just show what the supposition necessarily involves. If Christ on His cross intended to save every man, then He intended to save those who were lost before He died. If the doctrine be true, that He died for all men, then He died for some who were in hell before He came into this world, for doubtless there were even then myriads there who had been cast away because of their sins. Once again, if it was Christ's intention to save all men, how deplorably has He been disappointed, for we have His own testimony that there is a lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, and into that pit of woe have been cast some of the very persons who, according to the theory of universal redemption, were bought with His blood. That seems to me a conception a thousand times more repulsive than any of those consequences which are said to be associated with the Calvinistic and Christian doctrine of special and particular redemption. To think that my Saviour died for men who were or are in hell, seems a supposition too horrible for me to entertain. To imagine for a moment that He was the Substitute for all the sons of men, and that God, having first punished the Substitute, afterwards punished the sinners themselves, seems to conflict with all my ideas of Divine justice. That Christ should offer an atonement and satisfaction for the sins of all men, and that afterwards some of those very men should be punished for the sins for which Christ had already atoned, appears to me to be the most monstrous iniquity that could ever have been imputed to Saturn, to Janus, to the goddess of the Thugs, or to the most diabolical heathen deities. God forbid that we should ever think thus of Jehovah, the just and wise and good!"
http://www.spurgeon.org/calvinis.htm
http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0204.htm
I just found the original sermon that the second quote came from...
If you would, please replace the one in the post above.
Thanks!!
This was in for me timely. Last night I had a conversation with a friend about Luther Rice. I thought that he believed in election but I was not exactly sure.
Stephen
As a student at Luther Rice I regret the theological trends of the School. However, I know what I believe and why I believe it. I also realize that they stand firmly on the inerrancy of Scripture and the centrality of the Gospel. As long as that holds true, I can deal with the rest.
I posted on this quote you offered (as I think it was profound and causes me to think about approach):
"If those who claim to believe most strongly in God's grace do not act graciously then their conduct undermines their profession."
So true, so true. I hope I never undermine my profession in that way. And I have seen some who do.
That quote comes from the 2nd head of doctrine of the Canons of Dort. I believe that some of the angst that my non-Calvinist friends have about particular redemption would be lessened if they read the statements of Dort carefully at this point.
I'm not so sure of that, Tom, because Particular Redemptionists (hereafter PR's) and NonPR's (NPR's) differ over what they mean by the term "sufficiency/sufficient."
The PR says that the referent for "sufficiency" refers to the perfection of the Victim (eg. Jesus). At most, in reference to the atonement, it would mean the sacrifice is fit for any person, given (a)The Infinite Propriety of the Victim and (b) the infinite nature of the offense (sin). It's a reference to the intrinisic worth of the atonement.
(I would also add that, today, it's also not a sufficient way of referring to the atonement. What sort of "infinite" do we have in mind. There are all sorts of "infinite sets." out there to which we could refer).
The NPR, when he hears or reads that term thinks this refers to extrinsic benefits conferred on the elect and non elect alike. Amyraldians often make that appeal. The General Redemptionists tend toward saying it serves as a warrant to believe (and many Amyraldians agree).
In short, I'm not so sure that referring them to Dort, given these differences really would assuage their difficulties, for at the heart of the matter, and most often is their continued predilection with the axiom that ability limits responsibility, or, in reference to the atonement, scope warrants the faith of the object of evangelism.
Brothers,
I believe that Luther Rice has joined forces with Dr. Danny Allen. :D
I heard Dr. Danny Allen's sermon from the Jax Pastors Conference. He "scholarly" disproved Particular Redemption, proved Calvin to be a four-pointer, 'demerited' "The Death of Christ" by John Owen, and historically documented that the early church fathers had always held to "Unlimited Atonement" . . . ALL IN LESS THAN THIRTY MINUTES!
chadwick
Chadwick,
I think what Danny Allen was trying to prove from Hebrews was that the "Limited Atonement" assuaged by Calvin was different to that that was put forth by Dort. My assessment may be off the mark though. I have yet to read what Calvin said about it for I am still trudging (sentence by sentence it seems) through "Death of Death..." by Owen.
I think this is the part of the canons of dort that Dr. Tom was speaking of:
"For this was the sovereign counsel and most gracious will and purpose of God the Father that the quickening and saving efficacy of the most precious death of His Son should extend to all the elect, for bestowing upon them alone the gift of justifying faith, thereby to bring them infallibly to salvation; that is, it was the will of God that Christ by the blood of the cross, whereby He confirmed the new covenant, should effectually redeem out of every people, tribe, nation, and language, all those, and those only, who were from eternity chosen to salvation and given to Him by the Father; that He should confer upon them faith, which, together with all the other saving gifts of the Holy Spirit, He purchased for them by His death; should purge them from all sin, both original and actual, whether committed before or after believing; and having faithfully preserved them even to the end, should at last bring them, free from every spot and blemish, to the enjoyment of glory in His own presence forever."
Now I ask you, how can any Christian in his right mind reject this? I would go so far as to say that if you read this to most congregations (who have even heard about the battles that baptists deal with) you would get severely Amenciated.
The issue with "L" is not the extent of benefits of the cross, it is not what Calvin believed (he liked to kill anabaptists, don't you know?), it has to do with "Atonement".
a worthless sinner saved by grace, i am...
ABClay
Anybody else going to make it out to California next week?
ABClay,
Dr. Allen's "straw man" presentation was, at best, vague; it generates more questions than answers.
I wished he would have used the entire seventy minutes to concetrate on his main intention: Disprove Limited Atonement.
Why didn't he, dealing with the Greek, relay to his hearers that "men" is not contained in verse 9?
I 'ain't no Greek scholar,by no means,' but I see how "every" can contextually apply to the procedeing verses:
V10: everyone of the "many sons"
V11: everyone of the "brethren"
V12: everyone of the "children" [of God]
My point is, Dr, Allen was preaching to the "choir" at the pastors conference. He didn't really want to tell his hearers that Hebrews 2:9 is a difficult passage to prove against or for Limited Atonement.
We can only, at best, make a presumptuous argument at Dr. Allen's original intention of the text.
My only intention is his argument was vague and, in my opinion, only served to preach to the choir of those who hate the Biblical Doctrine of Limited Atonement.
I encourage you to email me (just click on my profile) and we can continue our discussion on the Hebrews 2:9 issue; I don't want to hijack the Founders blog that pertains to another issue.
Respectfully,
chadwick
Misspelling correction for my comment:
"proceeding"
chadwick
Good post brothers. Good discussion too.
An old Souther Preacher you might be aware of, Bro. David Miller, has said it as good as most anyone could when speaking of Calvinists or the like acting out their belief:
"Those fellas who preach about Grace ought to have some of their own!"
A Lion Has Roared!
Chadwick,
Thanks for the response, "you have mail".
ABClay
I graduated from Luther Rice in 2005 and am currently nearing graduation at one of the SBC Seminaries. During my time at LR I often became frustrated with two aspects of the school's theology: 1) Its hyper-dispensationalism (This effected every conceivable aspect of their hermeneutics and theology and still does to this day). 2) Their total confusion when it came to a correct understanding of just what historic Calvinism really is and what it teaches (e.g. the statement from Dort). Honestly there were times I wanted to just leave. It seemed no one would listen, some profs and students just parroted the same old caricatures heard somewhere in their academic career.
On a positive note I did learn a lot at LR and am thankful for God placing me there for a time. I think Dr. Flannagan is a good man and his article is a good starting place. Do I agree with him and the faculty of LR? No not at all (at least on this issue). I do hope that somewhere along the way they will consider hiring faculty that will not always bow their knee to the way things 'have' to be. I would rather the school stay where they are in relation to Calvinism and get rid of the dispensational bent. Just some thought from one of their alumni.
Chadwick,
Honestly I have not listened to Danny Allen's message from the conference. But, it it really possible that from an exegetical and academic basis he could have possible even come close to disproving everything you mentioned?
I know you don't believe so, and neither would anyone else in their right mind.
You been on any broncs lately?
"It does not offend me in the least for a brother to point out that he thinks I am in error, especially when he has tried to point it out to me with sincerity absent any caricature. It is this spirit that will facilitate the kind of discussions that brothers and sisters in the SBC need to be having."
It is best not to caricature or falsely represent. I think it was David Allen, if I am not mistaken. In his discussion he calls the purveyors of limited atonement magicians, practicing prestidigitation (slight of hand). In other words, he is calling 5-pointers false teachers sneaking in destructive heresy by bedazzling smooth speech and false representation. Though Mr. Allen seems sincere and kind tempered, the disingenuous nature of his considerations is apparent. Beyond that, it appears that the "template" that James White speaks of is gaining more adherents.
This is far different than that which ta has described here. I wrote a response which can be viewed at my other blog, because it was banned at SBC Today. And, I will not post it here. Dr. Ascol knows well of my tendency to be too "serrated", and he is repectfully welcome to kill this link.
As posted above, my greater concern about LRS is the dispensationalism and "decisionistic" evangelism that I expect still pervades the institution. I have two degrees from there (as well as two degrees from SBTS), but the latter LRS degree was conferred in 1992, so my personal experience is a bit dated. Nevertheless, this still seems to be the case from my reading of the seminary's quarterly periodical.
Dr. Flanagan is indeed an irenic individual, but I find his position unfortunate. Not only would men such as John MacArthur, John Piper, and Al Mohler not be allowed to teach there, but neither would the school's namesake, unless I'm missing something.
Bill Moore
Read a new article on the doctrine of election at:
http://www.youmustbesaved.com/preview_052.htm
See what you think.
God Bless!
Bro Abel,
You ask all of the same questions that I asked when I was struggling with the issue of election.
I pray that you will continue to search the scriptures and read those who have gone before us who have been blessed by God with great understanding and clarity. Maybe God will show you the correct answers to all of the questions.
Probably the best advice that I came across dealt with many of the verses that you quote. It went like this:
Don't misinterpret the verses that speak to man's responsibility to believe and assume they are speaking to man's ability to believe.
I will leave with a question for you:
If God knows everything, including who would believe and who wouldn't believe, why did He create those who would not believe?
Grace and Peace...
ABClay
To all others: Forgive me for troll feeding, but I am bored at work and it's almost quitting time.
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